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General Moto Thread, Helmet repeal vetoed in General Forums; Originally Posted by David 750 I meet him a few times when i ran for state rep.And also asked him ...
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:59 PM
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I meet him a few times when i ran for state rep.And also asked him a few questions about the sunshine law when i was a city councilman. He never gave me that impression.I do not know and do not want to know about his personal life though.Did he do something in your field that makes you say that?
I worked for him for 5 years and had dealings with him for some time after that. I flew in planes to meetings with him. So let's just leave it at that.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:12 PM
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Well you would know.We will leave it alone.My dealings were just very short and to the point.Heck you may even been the person i ended up talking to about the sunshine laws.That reminds me do you remember Clyde Angle.I was his friend on the council?Man i miss that guy.He was the most likable guy in the world if you could understand his ways.{Now thats a way to hijack a thread}sorry guys.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:48 AM
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Ok I know I will catch alot of flack for this but the helmet law was about more than helmet repeal. I prefer to ride without my helmet and that is my choice. I do not however do stunts while riding down the highway. I do not and will not ever ask anyone to ride without a helmet who does not want to. It is just a matter of personal choice. How many of you drive without your seat belt on?? Be honest. Before it was a requirement how many of you wore a seat belt?? Be honest. All I'm trying to say is we should have a choice and that is all. All of you that want to wear a helmet good for you. I just ask that when you see me riding with out mine DON'T ride past me doing a wheelie or doing 90 MPH. While you may think that it's ok to do so you are now making it dangerous for those around you. Now here is the text from SB202 because the law was vetoed you can and always have been able to be at blame in a motorcycle accident solely based on the fact you were riding a motorcycle. Did you know that?? SB202 had language in it to remove this from the law. here is the actual text
SCS/SB 202 - This act provides that operating a motorcycle, in and of itself, shall not be considered evidence of comparative negligence. The act also provides that when investigating an accident or settling an automobile insurance policy claim, no insurer, agent, producer, or claims adjuster of an insurer shall assign a percentage of fault to a party based upon the sole fact that the party was operating a motorcycle in an otherwise legal manner. This provision is similar to SB 505 (2007).

This act also exempts persons 21 years of age or older from wearing protective headgear except when operating or riding motorcycles or motortricycles upon interstate highways. The motorcycle helmet exemption expires on August 28, 2014 (Section 302.020

So please be informed before giving kudo's on something that affects all motorcylist in a deeper way than wearing a helmet.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:53 AM
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While that may be very well and good, why package it with a helmet law repeal? Btw, I wear my helmet AND seatbelt every time. Law or not I still would.

and I am not sure what wheeling 90mph down the highway (which noone on this forum does..) has to do with wearing a helmet or not. You can bust your melon going 20 mph without a helmet. Want to see some 5-10 mph 50cc dirtbike crashes on pavement without a lid?

Either way we have a huge discussion that I will link to in a bit, where many of our members answer or explain why the helmet law should or should not have gone. For me its simple. If the helmet law was repealed it would just be natural selection. Dont wear a helmet, face the consequences, and I am fine with that. However, Jay Nixon vetoing this bill saved lives, taxpayer money, and insurance premiums. So, no skin off my back either way.

I dont think I can be convinced to ever endorse the repeal of the law. If it happens, im not gonna cry about it, but I will call attention to the utter lunacy of riding a motorcycle without a helmet. Whether your 'wheelieing down the freeway at 90 mph' or cruisng along at 60, if your not wearing a helmet, and something happens, your dead meat brother.
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Here is the original discussion on this topic.

Prepare for more RIP threads this summer..

Tricounty feel free to throw your hat in the ring in that thread as well.
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the language for the insurance liability thing was separated from the helmet law bill. its now being debated as a seperate issue. and i agree that no matter what i will have my lid on. i rode chandlers bike around for a few minutes the other night and felt completely nervous without my jacket on.
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I am glad Fal answered so i did not have to write the same thing.+1
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can you show me a single instance where a helmet increased the amount of injuries a person incurred?

natural selection ,let them not wear it .
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